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Ron Paul gör oväntat uttalande om moskén
13:09 Monday 23 August, 2010Skriven av Peo
Om : Religion, Ron Paul (r) , Kommentera
Ron Paul är inte fullt så kritiskt till moskén som alla andra i Tea Party verkar vara. Tvärtom.
Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery?
It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.”
The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque.
Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.”
Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom?
In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.
They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers from in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.
The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.
The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.
Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.
This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.
There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?
If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable.
The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer.
Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.
Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.
It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty.
The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservative’s aggressive wars.
Var femte tror Obama är muslim
17:37 Friday 20 August, 2010Skriven av Sven
Om : Kongressvalet 2010, Opinionsundersökningar, Religion, Republikanerna, Terrorism , Kommentera
I kölvattnet av den infekterade debatten kring det planerade islamska centret på nedre Manhattan presenterar Pew Research Center en undersökning som visar att 18 % av befolkningen tror att Obama är muslim. Värt att notera är att undersökningen genomfördes i månadsskiftet juli/augusti, det vill säga innan debatten om Ground Zero-moskén bröt ut på allvar.
Vissa hävdar att undersökningen visar på en pågående kampanj att utmåla presidenten som “foreign” och att det är samma mekanismer bakom som när Obamas personbevis och status som amerikansk medborgare ifrågasattes.
Samtidigt höjs det också röster inom GOP om att moskéfrågan riskerar att flytta fokus från viktigare frågor – ekonomi och jobben – och att även om en majoritet av väljarna motsätter sig bygget, så är frågan inte tillräckligt viktig för att dra folk till valurnorna i november.
Olson om moskén nära Ground Zero
21:14 Wednesday 18 August, 2010Skriven av Peo
Om : New York, Religion , Kommentera
En av USA:s främsta advokater, Ted Olson vann Bush vs Gore år 2000 åt republikanerna. Han har nu “bytt sida” åtminstone i en fråga och försvarar homosexuellas rätt att gifta sig i det uppmärksammade Prop 8-målet. Olsons första fru dog i terrorattackerna den 11 september 2001. Vad tycker han om kulturcentret/moskén i närheten av Ground Zero?
Chris Christie som han nämner i inslaget är republikansk guvernör i New Jersey. Han har motsatt sig den retorik som Gingrich, Palin mfl ägnat sig åt i den här frågan. Republikanerna är annars ganska enade i sitt motstånd till moskén, dock är några mer försiktiga i sina uttalanden. För mer om den interna kampen inom republikanerna i frågan läs den här artikeln i The Hill.
Charlie Christ (republikanen som blev oberoende kandidat och nu leder i Floridas val till senaten) har stött Obamas uttalande i frågan.
Även bland demokraterna finns viss splittring i frågan. Främst är det senatorn Reid som motsatt sig moskéns placering. Han är inblandad i en tuff strid inför senatsvalet i höst. Många demokrater försöker undvika frågan genom att hänvisa till att det är en lokal fråga som bör bestämmas lokalt.
Uppdatering: Nu har även Howard Dean anslutit sig till demokrater som tycker att den bör byggas på annan plats (sista stycket på den artikeln är förresten guld) .
På helig mark?
23:33 Monday 16 August, 2010Skriven av Peo
Om : New York, Religion, Terrorism , Kommentera
Minaret i republikanernas officiella logo inför 2012
23:43 Thursday 12 August, 2010Skriven av Peo
Om : Religion, Republikanerna, Tea Party , Kommentera
Nu har logon för värdkommittén för republikanernas partikonvent 2012 släppts. Konventet ska hållas i Tampa Bay, Florida. En viktig del av stadens skyline är fd Old Tampa Bay Hotel (numera Henry B. Plant Museum). Byggnaden som ligger inom universitetets campus har sex stycken minareter. En av dessa kan ses i logon ovan. Vad tycker teabaggers om det? University of Tampas tidning heter förresten The Minaret…
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